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    One son wanted to refurbish a 58 MGA (Now back of the road) the other son (21) remembers the CJ7 we had when he was a kid so...we bought an 84 CJ7 on ebay and now the work begins.

    So the first of many questions.

    Since we are going to replace the tub, fenders, hood... shoudl we go for glass or steel. What are the pluses and minuses for each.

    Started looking for parts, can't seem to find replacement door (Full size) anyone know of a source?

    Thanks for the help

    Russell

  • #2
    You can find most anything on ebay if you are patient enough, but hard doors are expensive.

    As far as the tub swap, you can ask 10 people and get 10 opinions on that, but here is mine. Please bear in mind that I cannot make your decision for you, it boils down to your personal preference and budget.

    I would look for a used YJ tub. The later YJ tubs did not have quite the same afinity to rust as the earlier CJ tubs did. The YJ tub can be swapped on with minimal modifications (move some motor mounts around) and if you look hard you can find a used YJ tub with little or no rust for much less than a replacement steel or glass tub.

    Steel tubs make the wiring much easier compared to theig glass conterparts. (since glass does not conduct, seperate ground wires or a ground buss must be installed for EVERYTHING ELECTRICAL).

    Stock steel tubs seems to be more durable to me (I know someone will take issue with that statement). Glass will not dent, it cracks and shatters instead. Steel will bend long before tearing, and that seems to me that it would absorb a lot more energy than just a glass shell.

    Glass does have a number of things going for it, price being a big concern. glass tubs are cheaper than new steel replacement tubs and I dare say much higher quality. Many replacement steel tubs are imported junk that are much lighter gage metal than the parts they are replaceing. Add that to the fact that no-one garantees that the steel parts will show up in anything resembling an installable condition. (read the disclaimers..."Not responsible for damage...not responsible for fit or function...drilling required...priming and finishing required...etc."). With a glass tub you will get a well packaged replacement unit with an instalation video to help you out. No it won't be painless but it is doable.

    Bottom line...

    If you can find a used YJ tub, get it and put it on, if not, buy glass.

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    • #3
      You'll hear people say that glass flexes, or "I need the weight for snowplowing" so they go with metal. I like the my glass tub, it works fine for me. Some also say that you need a metal hood for front end support. I have no trouble at all with mine.

      Do a few searches in this community and you should find many answers. It may take a little time, but most everyone on here has great ideas. Some even take pictures to walk you through it.

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      • #4
        Read up...

        Did you see this thread yet, Rregge?

        http://4wd.com/kyoung_4wdforums/showthread.php?t=15688

        There are quite a few posts on the glass bodies in here. I'd do LOTS of reading. And welcome to the board!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by oxcj5
          You'll hear people say that glass flexes, or "I need the weight for snowplowing" so they go with metal. I like the my glass tub, it works fine for me. Some also say that you need a metal hood for front end support. I have no trouble at all with mine.
          People actually said they need the weight for snowplowing? Hah!! Do they realize how much weight they loose to rust plowing.

          Rust is the biggest reason I'm glad I have a Fiber tub (maybe 'glass' is the wrong acronyn to use). It's nice scooting under the jeep without some rust falling in your eye. I've hit stuff hard enough to bent the rear crossmember but never hurt the tub itself.

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          • #6
            It works for me:

            fiber is so much lighter, about 1000 pounds I think. I'm not sure there, but I know that if you put in a central grounding block for all grounds, it does really work out for me.

            The point of having NOT to paint, prime, etc. is just a big reason why you may want to go with the gel coat in the fiberglass. I tell you after you shine it up, it really shines.

            It may be just a personal choice of course.

            read the forum, and make up your own mind, as folks here have probably been through it all.

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            • #7
              Gel coat?

              Can you order tubs a particular color?

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              • #8
                Go aluminum. For alitte more than a good fiberglass body. You can have the strength of steel and the rustfree yrs as the fiberglass. Plus if you wheel it at all you dont have to cracking it if you hit a tree. http://www.aqualu.com/jeep/

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                • #9
                  Traditionalists will say steel... thats the way they came! I tend to be a traditionalist but it really depends on you and what you plan to do with it when its done, what your skills and tools lean towards. I have had both steel and glass tubs and I have found the steel to be more trail durable because it has more forgiveness than the glass... a bend or two is easier to live with and/or fix than broken glass.
                  If you have the tools and skills to work sheetmetal go that way; if you have the skills and tools for glass, go that way! (I will have to admit that the tools for glass repair are fewer).

                  The YJ tub is a great way to go if you can't find a good CJ tub to start with. CJ grills and hoods are fairly easy to come by; original front CJ fenders are usually in pretty bad shape due to the "sandwiching" of multiple layers of sheetmetal that, no matter how hard anyone tries to stop, get moisture in there and rot from the inside out.
                  The grounding issue with glass is not that difficult to deal with, just an added task to consider in your build plans.
                  The real plus of glass is that you will never have to worry about the rust!! if you are more into a finished product that looks great with zero waves and ripples and zero weld spots etc., to take on mild trails and creeking on the weekends and not planning to get into rock bashing class 4+ Fiberglass is the way.

                  Buts that's just my 2 cents worth!!!

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