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  • #16
    My house to work and back, 13min round trip on the Gary Fisher! I'm riding my bike from now on!!

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    • #17
      Originally posted by RalphXJ
      My house to work and back, 13min round trip on the Gary Fisher! I'm riding my bike from now on!!
      Bite Me!!!!

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      • #18
        2.79 a gal for D here in FL. Im also starting to brew my own. We'll do an article on that if I dont blow something up. If I do the wife will ghost write for me so that you dont do the same.

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        • #19
          Can't even afford to go wheeling any more. Was planing a trip to Harlan Ky in July, but if gas is to much I'll have to forget it. I Guess I may just stay home and work on the Jeeps.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by adventure bob
            2.79 a gal for D here in FL. Im also starting to brew my own. We'll do an article on that if I dont blow something up. If I do the wife will ghost write for me so that you dont do the same.
            Be interested in how that works out!! I was really thinking about getting a D truck, but got the V10 instead. Next one will probably be an oil burner, and I'll make my own!!

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            • #21
              fuel

              $3.65 for gasoline here in Lansing MI I cant wait for that trip to Moab that should only cost a few thousand dollars in fuel.

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              • #22
                The single most profitable industry is oil. I was reading the other night that it costs the oil companies approx $.20-$.50 per gallon of gas (depending on grade). This is total cost, from sucking it our of the ground, to the pump. The gov't slaps on another $1.10 - $1.80 per gallon of tax. Then we pay $3 - $4 per gallon. The last four years, the oil companies have posted record proffits. The only reason they raise the rates is because they can.

                And Diesel, it even costs less! It's even easier to make because of less refining. It only costs $.15 per gallon to make and deliver.

                I'm sick and tired of these companies sticking it to us because they can. But what can we do? Stop using the gas? Supply and demand. We still have the cheapest gas I know of. But how much traveling really gets done in Europe? How many families hop in there cars and go on vacations driving over 3,000 miles? This happens every day in the U.S. and I don't want to see us stuck at home never traveling because it is too expensive.

                I would like to see a push for biodeisel and a tax advantage for running it. If it gets big, and I can get a Commander with one in it, I'll start a McDonald's so I can use all their bioproducts.

                I think I'll run for President next time around and take care of some things on the home front.

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                • #23
                  what i can't understand is how the Speedway station can sell regular for $3.49 a gallon and stations a couple miles up the road are selling for $3.07 and $3.09. then they tell us we're not being gouged. oils companies profits are up 400% and more. i'm not an economics professor but, isn't "profit" what you have left after all the bills are paid and you can put that money in the bank or your pocket? even after all the CEO's get millions in "bonuses" they still show huge profits and keep coming up with all kinds of BS to try to convince we're not getting screwed. if they're going to screw us anyway, at least be honest about it.

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                  • #24
                    $3.65 here in SE MI. I'm probably buying a Prius in the next few months. I was holding out for a pure electric, but I'll go broke waiting.

                    Here's a little data I came up with...

                    Current Jeep as DD:
                    12000-15000 miles/year
                    14 mpg
                    857-1071 gallons/year
                    $3428-4284/year @ $4/gallon gas

                    Prius with conservative fuel estimate (assuming lead-foot driving)
                    12000-15000 miles/year
                    40 mpg
                    300-375 gallons/year
                    $1200-1500/year @ $4/gallon gas

                    Prius with average fuel estimate (published averages)
                    12000-15000 miles/year
                    60 mpg
                    200-250 gallons/year
                    $800-1000/year @ $4/gallon gas

                    I won't even get into liberal estimates based on reported achievable mileages in excess of 100 mpg (if you drive conservatively). I won't even get into what these numbers look like with gas at $5/gallon. Even these conservative estimates show I could spend $800-1500/year on gas instead of $3400-4300.

                    If I wasn't in the market for a car, the added expense of payments on a Prius would translate into a nine-year break-even period (this doesn't consider repairs costs or gas in excess of $4/gallon). But since my Jeep is already over 10 years old, sucks gas, and I want to replace it as a DD, I'll be buying a vehicle anyway. Might as well buy something with the best possible mileage and start saving money from day one.

                    I'm not selling my Jeep though, just replacing it as a DD. I wish I had the knowledge and experience to convert it to a pure electric, with a small diesel generator supplementing the batteries (sipping fuel). I'll say it again...if it works for 100-ton dump trucks, it'll be great on a Jeep.

                    Flex-fuel/ethanol and bio-diesel are poor stop-gap measures for the time being. There just isn't enough savings, not enough of a jump in efficiency. In ten or twenty years, electrics will become the dominant type. Assuming no interference from big oil and friendly politicians.
                    Last edited by muddymoose; 05-23-2007, 09:06 AM.

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                    • #25
                      7min bike ride to work todasy!!!!

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by RalphXJ
                        7min bike ride to work todasy!!!!
                        Just for that, I hope it snows!

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                        • #27
                          gas

                          found this the other day some of them don't look half bad.

                          http://www.zapworld.com/

                          Hal

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Adventure Bob
                            2.79 a gal for D here in FL. Im also starting to brew my own. We'll do an article on that if I dont blow something up. If I do the wife will ghost write for me so that you dont do the same.
                            Originally posted by RalphXJ
                            Be interested in how that works out!! I was really thinking about getting a D truck, but got the V10 instead. Next one will probably be an oil burner, and I'll make my own!!
                            I looked into this. Sounds really easy but didn't have a vehicle to test it on. Told my uncle about it and he made up a small batch.
                            One thing you have to do is change the oil filter often. It seems to plug up often because the WVO cleans the engine better.
                            I have a bunch of links on this if you want me to post them.
                            I was thinking of making the Snowboard Lift a popcorn machine.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by 77JIMY
                              found this the other day some of them don't look half bad.

                              http://www.zapworld.com/

                              Hal
                              That looks promising...
                              only downside I see is the increased electrical demand is going to throw more consumption into coal.

                              I see sad folks driving around here in their little Prius, wishing they had the hp to be able to pull out into traffic, and to top it off, the local reporters are doing stories about how poor (compared to what's advertised for them) gas mileage they get. In some instances, no better than a gasoline-powered Toyota or Honda of same model.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by RalphXJ
                                7min bike ride to work todasy!!!!
                                I have sent a travel gnome to slash those tires!

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