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  • Hydraulic Winch Vs. Electric Winch

    I am thinking about buying a winch? But several types and weight limits? Right now I am looking at Mile Markers 12,000 lb hydraulic winch but I don't know much about it. Most everybody I see has an electric. Is one better than the other or is it preference? Any info would be appreciated.
    Thanks

  • #2
    Great... just opena can of worms why don't cha.

    Electric are simple easy and effective. There easy to install, There easy to operate, effective for averaged pulls, and "CAN" work while the Jeep is not running (but you'll kill the battery quick)

    Hydraulic is another game all together. Biggest disadvantage to athe hydraulic is the engine has to be running to use the winch. Another disadvantage is you have to run hydraulic lines to actualy power the thing. Now for the advantages. A hydraulic has great power, VERY hard to overheat, can do SEVERAL long pulls without even a complaint. Very reliable, can be used submerged as long as you can keep the engine running.

    I remember reading a good article about the comparison a while back, It was at one of the tech sites... try www.jeepsonly.com or www.4x4wire.com

    If I was in the position to buy a winch I'd probably lean more towards the hydraulic for a few reasons. They usualy have a lowerprofile then the electrics which means more air gets to the radiotor. There totaly sealed units with very very few moving/breakable parts. And finaly because theere nice and quiet.

    Hope some of this helped.

    Keep us posted

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    • #3
      go Hydraulic is you can afford it. I wish I could...hell I still don't have a winch at all yet. But want one real bad.

      Hyd will pull all day w/o failure or complaint. You may get a few feet with elec on the batt only...but then your dead in the water.

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      • #4
        Here is a good artical I found when I was looking at getting a winch. I bought the Warn 9500ti I have used it 4 times now with no issues.

        Electric vs. Hydraulic vs. PTO
        Just when everyone thought the electric vs. PTO winch war was over, along comes the hydraulic winch. There are still pockets of resistence, but generally, electric winches have won out over the PTO winch. Enter the hydraulic winches and another set of advantages and disadvantages.

        The PTO (Power Take Off) winch is driven by a small drive shaft that is driven by a PTO adapter that bolts to the transmission or transfer case. Only certain transmissions and transfer cases have PTO ports (e.g. T-18, SM-465, Dana 18, ...). Most electric and hydraulic winches have only one speed, but with a transfer case PTO port, shifting gears can be used to change line speed, torque, and direction. Transmission PTO ports drive off the counter shaft, so they work in one direction and have one speed that can be varied by engine RPM. Since engine power drives the PTO winch, your engine must be working to operate a PTO winch. This is probably the biggest disadvantage of the PTO winch since your engine isn't likely to be running for long when your truck is upside down or under water in a raging river. Not long enough to run out the cable anyway.

        The electric winch does not require the engine to be running to work, which is it's biggest advantage. The big argument against the electric winch in the past was it would drain you battery and there was no way your alternator could provide sufficient power for a long pull. The automotive industry has made great improvements in alternator and battery technology over the past years which has given the advantage to the electric winch. Batteries have more power and alternators have higher outputs. An electric winch might even work if your truck is upsidedown or under water.

        Some of the advantages of the hydraulic winch are pulling power, pull duration, and weight. The hydraulic winch runs off your existing power steering pump. There is no need to upgrade alternator of battery for the winch, but you may consider upgrading your power steering pump. If you don't have power steering, convert now, regardless of what winch you get. A hydraulic winch should be able to pull harder and longer than a electric winch with out over heating. Hydraulic winches are also much lighter than electric winches, putting less strain on your front axle and front springs.

        Hydraulic winches suffer from the same disadvantage as the PTO winch, neither works when the engine isn't running. The hydraulic winches I've seen have a real slow line speed, this could an advantage under some circumstances, but generally this is a disadvantage. There is a two speed model, but the high speed is not for use under load. Another disadvantage I've heard from people with hydraulic winches is the reduced ability to steer and winch at the same time.

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        • #5
          i just want a a decent winch any suggestions? i dont want it to sag my front.

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          • #6


            If you want answers go to ,,,,, www.milemarker.com ,,,,, & get your free video or cd on there winch & others. It gives FULL details, pro's & con's on the winches both electric & hydraulic.

            The video or cd will leave you w/ out a doubt on which winch to buy.

            Personally, I'm going w/ the hydraulic.

            Just a thought,

            Have A Great Day!

            JB



            P.S. Ueland & I on the right posting page????

            P.S.S. Just kidding "U" :lol:

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            • #7
              Originally posted by jbsgroup


              P.S. Ueland & I on the right posting page????

              P.S.S. Just kidding "U" :lol:

              HEY!!!

              ...Who let that CJ guy in the Wrangler room?????


              SECURITY!!!!!!


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              • #8


                Well Let me put it in 4wheel HIGH & get out of here! :lol: :hi:

                See Ya,

                Have A Great Day!

                JB

                Go U.S.A.

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                • #9
                  well I guess we COULD use a token CJ around here...sein as I'm the "token" YJ for the CJ room

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                  • #10
                    Hey now stop pickin on us CJ guys.

                    Personally I prefer a hydraulic or PTO winch. Had an old 77 Ford f250 with a Ramsey 12000 PTO on it. Never gave me a day of trouble :lol: It would pull anything I put it against without heating up or giving any sort of complaint over the job. Bestfriend has a hydraulic (sorry can't remember the brand) and same story, never a problem. True the install of the thing was a royal pain, but deffinitely worth it in the long run.

                    The only draw back to the two of these is that the engine has to be running, making a self retreival a scary opertation and that is if you aren't having eng problems to boot.

                    After having worked with all three types the PTO and Hydraulic are my favorite.

                    Now after having said all this I'm going to be absolutely contrary and say that I'm pretty sure I'm going to go with the Warn 9000XI and their multimount system. I'm too poor to buy two winches for my Jeeps, so I'm just going to buy the one and switch it between the two. What's a guy supposed to do when he's got more than one baby to baby

                    Matt

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                    • #11


                      Point of information, Everyone say's that w/ a hydraulic winch if your motor dies your done & how would you winch yourself out if you are by yourself while 4 wheeling; Answer , you can't! So we all agree on that, right.

                      BUT if your motor is dead w/ an electric winch & you winch yourself out, your battery will last you approximately 7 min. according to studies done, so you are in the same boat. One is just in the hole & the other is just out of the hole, depending on how you look @ it & the ride/ Jeep/ Truck is still broke down.

                      Have A Great Day!

                      JB

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                      • #12
                        shouldnt really be wheeling by yourself anyway....

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