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    So I think I have mapped out what I want as far as a lift system (yes, system..) Tell me if you see anything wrong whith my plans or maybe suggest something that I can improve on.

    It starts off with a Rubicon Express 4.5" Extreme Duty lift kit. From there, I plan on purchasing Doetsch Tech long travel shock absorbers (DT8000) front and rear. I have heard both good and bad things about these shocks compared to the rancho 9000x. If anyone has any input as to both shocks please let me know. For the front, I will buy Ford shock tower mounts to acomidate the longer travel shock. In the rear I will attach the shocks inward as to accomidate the longer travel in the rear. Also, I plan on adding the Nth Degree Mobility Zig Zag Link to the rear for added down travel.

    Is there something out there that I can buy to attach the top of the shocks to in the rear to move them inward? From what I look at and see online, those who move them in have made their own mounts on some kind of cross member between the frame? Is this something that I am going to have to do? (I have no welding / fabricating skills but will definitely try something if I have to.....)

    Please, comments / suggestions are highly appreciated. I am kind of on a deadline, but if it doesn't get done then it doesnt get done. I want to try and order / assemble this stuff by christmas so that when I go to moab I will be able to test it out!

  • #2
    sounds like a well thought out lift...You will need to do an SYE and CV rear driveshaft with that setup...I prefer the skyjacker 5th link rear opposed to the zig-zag. I feel this is a better setup. The Rancho 9000 uses a simple butterfly and a plastic knob to adjust the shocks. It is a tried and true shock but in my mind the ProComp MX-6 is built better. It uses an anodized billet knob and adjustable valving rather than a butterfly.

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    • #3
      I do plan on running a SYE and CV DS. I will purchase it along with the lift kit, and the rest of the stuff will come when I need it (and get more $$$). Thank's for the suggestion of the skyjacker 5th link and your opinion on the shocks. I havnt heard of the 5th link but will definately check into it!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by bstewart91yj
        I prefer the skyjacker 5th link rear opposed to the zig-zag. I feel this is a better setup.
        Well, I checked into this. The Skyjacker 5th Link is a traction bar, and the zig-zag is not a traction bar, yet is something much diferent. The 5th link is something that you would use in conjunction with the zig-zag, if what I read is correct, to prevent severe axle wrap. What the zig-zag allows the rear springs to do is drop away from the frame, minimizing spring binding. Although what you said is much different, it did get me thinking and I may end up purchasing the 5th link just to stabalize the rear axle and prevent a lot of axle wrap.

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        • #5
          what you doing about tires...do you have lockers to acomadate the extreme flex your planing on?

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          • #6
            Yes, I will be adding lockers, to both d30 and d35. On the rear 35 I plan on putting the super 35 kit as well. Both front and rear will be geared to 4.88 as well, because I will most likely be purchasing 33" or 35" X 10.5" tires.

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            • #7
              why not take the money you are going to put into the 35 and upgrade to a better rear axle. thats what im going to do....when i get money...lol

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              • #8
                Your not SOA you don't need the skyjacker 5th link. All this money and your still using a sua lift kit. I used my stock crossmember but my gas tank wont in the way and my axle is moved back 2" but you will have to fab a mount and you will also need to rework the mounts on the axle end of the shock so it can be triangulated. Granted everyone has their own opinions but I would still save up and SOA not much more money then your putting into it now (sua lift kit) and since you go to moab I would think that SOA is a must out there for anything hard. Also upgrade the turdyfive and I don't mean by slapping in that expensive kit and still breaking it on down the road and then be sol on spare shafts. just my .02

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                • #9
                  I agrees wit Mud_ get rid of the 35, especially if ya gonna run bigger that a 33/lockers, you're inviting trouble. As far as mounting the shocks, Triangle them, but make sure to get full effect on the shock, you outboard the lower mounts and inboard the upper mounts. By the time ya spend the duckkies on the super kit you could find and 8.8 or 44. I like the 8.8 myself. As long as you are staying with the spings under the axle you dont not need a traction control system. Even with my SOA I dont use anything. The zigzag link is a nice touch to add more flex and less wear and twist on the springs.

                  http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m...s/100_2214.jpg

                  http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m...s/100_2574.jpg

                  http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m...nondarocks.jpg

                  Maybe this will help pics of my SOA flexing

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                  • #10
                    I would recommend the Bistien 5100 shocks. I've had mine for about 2 yrs and I love them. Everything I've read about the 9000's is that they are too stiff.

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                    • #11
                      Now your going to make me post my pics John
                      Inboarded shocks
                      http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...uly/flexn2.jpg
                      (they are the 4wd 3.5" lift ones I used from my old sua kit and I could probably get away with just 2" lift ones)
                      and soa flex is pimptastic!
                      http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...eepflexn12.jpg
                      http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...flexation3.jpg
                      My traction bar:
                      http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ctionbar-1.jpg
                      okay im done

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                      • #12
                        sounds like you have put some thought into this (by the by i am running almost exactly the same thing on my yj expert i haven't gotten to the zig-zag yet, while a supper 35 will hold up to 35's i would not recommend spending the money on a d35 when you can put a 8.8 or 9inch in for similar money or even less, when i redid my axles to 4.10 (auto trany) i stuck a ox locker up front and went with a Aussie in the rear since ox didn't have one out for the 8.8 yet, sicne then they have developed one, as for the shocks while i like by DT there are better shocks out there

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