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    I take my jeep to get the front end alligned and they tell me they cant get it straight, ive took it to 3 different places and no one will fix it. What do I need to do to fix this?

  • #2
    Dena
    You said 3 places but they didn't tell ya if any thing was wrong?
    If its something bent, worn.
    there is a way to check it using a straight edge and a tape meassure. Some one here has posted it before.
    How does it drive?
    more input.

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    • #3
      The only thing adjustable on a YJ (without major mechanical modifications) is the toe in and the steering wheel position. Camber and Caster are not adjustable without a good welder. If they can't set the toe in then you need a new tie rod or tie rod ends. If you can't set the steering wheel position you need a new drag link. Take it to a shop familier with 4 wds that knows what can and can't be adjusted. Nice looking rig by the way.

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      • #4
        WHOA!! From the angle of the picture that thing is WAY off!!! Your not driving it like that are you? I'd get that thin fixed ASAP. I'll bet it is tearing the heck out of the treads on the tires!!!

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        • #5
          [QUOTE=LoTGoD] I'd get that thin fixed ASAP.QUOTE]

          i think thats why she posted on here.

          it definitly sounds like your tie-rod needs some serious adjustment... how did it happen? It obviously wasnt always like that, did you hit something? possibly a gernade? hehe sorry. Definitly would try adjusting your tie-rods or trackbar. Definitly sounds like track bar. Set the steering wheel so the tires are equally /\ and adjust them in.

          -Lou

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          • #6
            I just noticed how bad that was. I don't think there is enough adjustment in a tierod to fix that! I imagine you have a bent nuckle or something. That pothole musta hurt!

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            • #7
              could also be some seriously worn out ball joints. try jacking the dside tire up, then put a bar under the tire and lift up. if it wiggles or moves, you need new ball joints. my ford truck had the front ball joint wear and it looked at least that bad on both sides.

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              • #8
                First it can't be the track bar (that only centers the axle). On a YJ the drag link attaches the pitman arm to the tie rod and has nothing to do with toe in so it can't be that either. Toe in or toe out is adjusted on the tie rod only. Your knuckles are cast so if you bent them you hit something really hard (look to see if they are bent or cracked). My best guess is that either your ball joints are toast or your tie rod is. Look under your rig to see if anything is obviously bent, broken or loose. You can probably replace the tie rod by yourself in the driveway with just hand tools. You can rough in the alignment with a long board and a pencil then take it to a shop for final alignment. Ball joints require a ball joint press and are a little more difficult. Knuckles can also be replaced in your driveway but require a lot of disassembly and the use of a bfh.

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                • #9
                  bam

                  Tie rod end,track bar,or lower control arm bushing(maybe). Toed out 2 degrees or more looks like to me. A mechanical repair shop that is also a front end shop will gladly,give you a free (maybe)estimate on parts and labor. Tie rod $33.99,Track arm $73.99,Controll arm bushing $5.99,+ Labor,front tires going straight,priceless .
                  When you go to,or talk to a shop ask them what the labor rate is per billable hour, our rate here is $52.77 per billed hour. You can shop for the best price based on what the rate is,the number of billable hours per job
                  is supposed to be stanardized nation wide. If you find that one shops labor times are way differant than the rest report them (this goes for all of you) reporting these shops will keep the price per billable hour down.

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                  • #10
                    are you saying that a shop can't charge what they want for an hours labor?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by ACE
                      Tie rod end,track bar,or lower control arm bushing(maybe).
                      Its a YJ... there is no control arm bushing.... there is no control arm. And the track bar has nothing to do with the steering it just centers the axle under the frame. Jeez have none of you ever looked underneath a YJ.

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                      • #12
                        Where abouts in GEORGIA are you located? PM me if you are anywhere around the Macon/Warner Robins area, I could check it out for ya.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by FUBAR
                          are you saying that a shop can't charge what they want for an hours labor?
                          NO, I'm not saying that. What I'm saying is that,if a standardized labor guide such as ALDATA or the GM Service Guide or any other offical labor times guide is used the times may only very by a small degree. The times are set by the services needed to fix the vehicale ,and by the year, make, model, engine size, and other specific information about the vehical.
                          --Yes individual shops can set the labor rate at there shop, but the time it takes to do a specific service should be looking up in the labor times guide on each job. If a shop is guessing at the labor time it takes to do a job ,then they're deshonest.The labor times are the same nationaly.The rates vary

                          Sample service order
                          2001 Jeep Wrangler TJ check front brakes.

                          Needs PADS $54.95
                          LABOR is 1 hour (from guide)at $52.77 per billable hour (at our rate)
                          Needs ROTORS turned labor 1/2 hour (from guide)at 52.77 per billable hour
                          The brake job will be 1.50 hours labor $79.16
                          Parts $54.95
                          Total is 134.10 + tax
                          Last edited by ACE; 12-21-2005, 12:50 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Beavis
                            Its a YJ... there is no control arm bushing.... there is no control arm. And the track bar has nothing to do with the steering it just centers the axle under the frame. Jeez have none of you ever looked underneath a YJ.
                            I'm sorry ,your right no control arms and track arms you right sorry.Not a TJ
                            I know when I ask one of the front end guys here I didn't specify YJ or TJ.
                            What I said about the repair shop giveing an estimate is what she needs to do. THANKS MAN

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ACE
                              I'm sorry ,your right no control arms and track arms you right sorry.Not a TJ
                              I know when I ask one of the front end guys here I didn't specify YJ or TJ.
                              What I said about the repair shop giveing an estimate is what she needs to do. THANKS MAN
                              Thats ok. But just remember there are still a few of us low tech guys that still drive the old YJs with simpler suspension and steering systems.

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