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  • #16
    Wow again I have to speak up.
    Some of the pirates were good, they were stopping illegal dumping in Somali waters.
    So they were not all totally bad, however it has gotten to greed and went from protection to kidnapping.
    So what to do about it.
    Simple, it is a failed state, have the UN take over control of the waters.
    All of the worlds navies could patrol it.
    Or another solution. Make Somalia's line 100 ft from shore, the rest international and have any navy take part in getting rid of them.

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    • #17
      This is gettin ugly now. A pirated ship carrying a bunch of hostages is comming to rescue the pirates holding the Captain, within 30 miles.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Penguin View Post
        Wow again I have to speak up.
        Some of the pirates were good, they were stopping illegal dumping in Somali waters.
        So they were not all totally bad, however it has gotten to greed and went from protection to kidnapping.
        So what to do about it.
        Simple, it is a failed state, have the UN take over control of the waters.
        All of the worlds navies could patrol it.
        Or another solution. Make Somalia's line 100 ft from shore, the rest international and have any navy take part in getting rid of them.
        Source for that statement?
        I'm curious as to what facts point to "Some of the pirates were good..."
        Those of us who have been shielded by the 'cone of silence' would love to see that information.

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        • #19
          I see the shipping company paying a ransom and letting the rats go. Our navy is just showing the flag and making noise. Who called in the FBI? How many of them speak the language and how many of them know about Somali pirates? We only want our captain back so somebody will pay up. They give him back and everything is OK.Then it happens again and again and again.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Poppy View Post
            I see the shipping company paying a ransom and letting the rats go. Our navy is just showing the flag and making noise. Who called in the FBI? How many of them speak the language and how many of them know about Somali pirates? We only want our captain back so somebody will pay up. They give him back and everything is OK.Then it happens again and again and again.
            But you forget... we give them money, we get the captain back... and they're out of gas in a lifeboat. Any idea how many millions of dollars gas costs in the middle of the Indian Ocean? I'll be willing to settle for, oh, all the ransom money back.

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            • #21
              Get the Captain and then blast em.

              then just take the money back.





              Seriously I'm really hoping the captain gets out of this unharmed.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by rippin YJ View Post
                Get the Captain and then blast em.

                then just take the money back.





                Seriously I'm really hoping the captain gets out of this unharmed.
                Y'all are way too harsh about it all. I say, get the Captain and let them walk home.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by kingchip View Post
                  Y'all are way too harsh about it all. I say, get the Captain and let them walk home.
                  Well if you think about it, these clowns don't have a boat of their own now, and the boat they are "borrowing" is out of gas.

                  I'm sure a deal could be worked out... they would have to fork over all the ransom money for getting our captain back, plus more money for the boat, fuel, etc. So this could actually be made to cost them.

                  And since the clown-pirates are trying to call in all their buddies with a slew of hostages and captured ships, this is a golden opportunity to take it all back and put them out of business permanently.

                  Let 'em swim home.
                  Y'all do realize those waters are pretty shark infested, right?

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by tomsjeep View Post
                    Source for that statement?
                    I'm curious as to what facts point to "Some of the pirates were good..."
                    Those of us who have been shielded by the 'cone of silence' would love to see that information.
                    The BBC did a piece on it. About the amount of bad chemicals in the water and waste/sewage increasing from other countries dumping in their waters. I have to say, if this was going on off my coast here by me, pirates would be considered good. The local people here would go after the offenders and the business, and the families of the offenders.
                    But as I said before, some of it was good, but greed stepped in and it is no longer the main point.
                    The said part of this whole thing is that by not sticking to what they should have been doing they now have lost everything the originally started for.
                    So, like I said before. Have all the world's navies patrol all but 100 ft from shore. They didn't want to keep their greed under control, they don't get to keep their water rights. Put it all over to international waters. Sink any Somali ship that even blinks when a navy boat comes near.

                    Of course we cannot forget the good they did when they hijacked the Ukrainian ship that had all the illegal weapons going to the Sudan.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Penguin View Post
                      The BBC did a piece on it.
                      I'm surprised I missed it, since I check them routinely for news and info.
                      While to be fair, this sounds like a noble cause, these folks have been into piracy and ship hijacking and hostage taking for hundreds of years, long predating any dumping that might have taken place in their neighborhood. Prowling 300 miles offshore is not patrolling your own waters.
                      With any luck, this will all get settled safely, and there will be an extra handful of escort vessels accompanying shipments from here on out.

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                      • #26
                        French just pulled off the rescue of a pirated yaught, 1 hostage dead, 4 saved. That works for me. Kick there arses no matter what the cost. Then maybe it will stop.

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                        • #27
                          We will spend 50 million to give them 50 bucks worth of gas. The pirates are now sending re-enforcements. Remember when the Haitians had four people on a dock with machetes and kept the USMC from landing.This country has forgotten what tesiticales are.

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                          • #28
                            Captain bailed and tried to swim for it..pierats swam after him and brought him back....

                            Can't anybody on that friggin ship SHOOT?????

                            Send my fat arse out there and gimme a rifle...he swims again...they won't!



                            Send GREENPEACE out there! They'll get the friggin job done!!! Or a bunch of rednecks in a motorboat!
                            Last edited by Gryphon; 04-11-2009, 02:08 AM. Reason: had to tone it down...

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Gryphon View Post
                              Captain bailed and tried to swim for it..pierats swam after him and brought him back....

                              Can't anybody on that friggin ship SHOOT?????

                              Send my fat arse out there and gimme a rifle...he swims again...they won't!



                              Send GREENPEACE out there! They'll get the friggin job done!!! Or a bunch of rednecks in a motorboat!

                              I was thinking that too - why didn't someone cover him and light that raft up when he jumped?

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by rippin YJ View Post
                                I was thinking that too - why didn't someone cover him and light that raft up when he jumped?
                                I heard someone on the radio speculate that Obama has ordered the ships far enough out of range of small arms fire in order to prevent the pirates from attempting to shoot at the ships... as if the warships would be seriously injured by small arms fire! It seems as if it's a blatant prevention of letting a warship do what it does best... which is intimidate by sheer presence.
                                What it does second best is a follow-up to what happens if the bad guys aren't intimidated = open up on them.
                                What's really sad is how much this is almost a play-by-play re-enactment of the early Carter years. Anybody remember when the Russian ships would plow into our Navy ships... and our response? "please stop bumping into our warships!"

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