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  • The Goverment, Law Enforcement, and Military

    In general the Goverment of today is corrupt and worthless. It has grown to a bueacracy far exceeding the expectations of the founders.

    There was a time when Goverment was effective and effcient... but after WW2 and contuining though the 90's it has failed us over and over. The decision to implement an income tax was a big part of it... the Income Tax was one of Marx's "baby steps" on the way to a socialist state.

    All things equal I trust the private sector more then the goverment... the private sector's goal is to make profit- though not always nobel, it is predictable. The goverment position is much harder... often they don't look for profit, but for power... And that is much more dangerous.

    As for Law Enforcement... the vast majority (but not all) people in law enforcement are corrupt... they only go into the feild because they were picked on or otherwise bullied at some part of their life and procede to take it out on everyone else for the rest of their lives. My experience is most people in the position can't possibly do anything else in life... They have no real skills and usually needed a family member to even get them on the force... Most deserve to be, and would be on the other side of the bars if not for their badge. They tend to be drunks, and they tend to drive drunk. Very few are worthy and even many of them will turn their cheek when their fellow cops are cheating/lying/stealing and otherwise acting like criminals. Most are racists too... from racist homes.

    As for the military... Not everyone in uniform is a hero... many are general scumbags who like to shoot things, probably tortured animals growing up. Other's made the military choice as a business decision... these people may yet become heros, but they aren't the day they sign up. Generally for the people who choose to serve, the rigid disipline instilled is a good thing- but these are people who would otherwise be flipping burgers if not for the military... very few leave a cozy office job to serve. But not all.

    So I hope that answers your questions.
    This wasn't meant to start controvsey, only to answer the question raised in the other thread.

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    Here's too you (warning Not for those under 1

    <eom>
    Last edited by LoTGoD; 05-24-2006, 07:56 AM.

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    • #3
      Canada is taking new citizens

      If it is so bad, I hear Canada is taking new citizens. You go on with your non-conformist self!

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      • #4
        LOL. I agree with some of this (mostly the govt stuff).
        As for cops, most is true, except for the #'s that are this way. It is not a vast majority.
        I work with many Police, Sheriff, and Constable's officers on a daily basis, and the majority of them are good people doing a crappy job.
        There are those that are corrupt and do as you said, just as in any other profession. Police are just held to a higher standard than most others.
        As far as your bigoted statement about racism, well, not much I can say except it's wrong.

        As for the military, I can only speak of those I know that have been in it, (Family and a few friends and neighbors) and they have all come out better people than they went in as, and none of them were animal beaters or "liked to shoot things". None of them went into it to be hero's. As far as I know, they have all shyed away from any recognition of their accomplishments.

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        • #5
          Whether or not any particular one of us agrees/disagrees with BOP's copied/pasted post depends on our personal experiences with gov'ment, law enforcement, and people we know who have served in the military. That said, I agree with the stated opinion, based on my experiences. I've met more A-hole cops than people in any other profession, quite a few dumb*sses who are serving or have served in the military, and I believe all career politicians should be shot dead on sight. Luckily, I haven't seen any, and I go out of my way not to.

          To those in the aforementioned professions who do their jobs to the best of their ability, don't abuse their positions, and respect "lesser" people's rights and opinions, I salute you.


          Please people, think before you post...BOP does. He really needs another hobby, though.

          STOP ENTERTAINING THE TROLL

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          • #6
            BOP sitting in front of the mirror....

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            • #7
              Oh BOP..you must remember the way we recruit military...we go in young and learn the trade like any profession, but it takes a certain breed to fly over Baghdad and let bombs go knowing there are AAA sites all around. That goes for the grunts on the ground kicking in doors looking for bad guys. I had a damn BIOCHEM degree and decided to fly for the navy instead...4 wars later and 4000 hours later, I am pondering retirement to get a real job. You'd be really surprised on the quality of men/women in the military. Their/our lives are scrutinized 24/7....you get a DUI, oh well....one of my sailors gets one and he or she is paying the piper in civilian court, and getting hammered by the military. We have a few bad apples, but they get weeded out pretty quickly. I'd take the worst sailor/grunt over any gold toothed banger, and you know if a military member stops to help you by the road, they will help and not steal your car or wallet. The way we work..we can't really draw from experienced/good civilians to go into the miliatry..we grow our own..its a lifestyle and choice of course....I appreciate your opinions, but tread lightly please on the men and women in uniform=me. What do you do for a living BOP?

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              • #8
                Cozy office job.

                And it's true, I would fight with myself in the mirror... Fawker in the mirror is looking to the left but I am looking to the right. He's my mirror, he should get in line and do what I do, like my shadow does.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by BirdOPrey5
                  In general the Goverment of today is corrupt and worthless. It has grown to a bueacracy far exceeding the expectations of the founders.

                  There was a time when Goverment was effective and effcient... but after WW2 and contuining though the 90's it has failed us over and over. The decision to implement an income tax was a big part of it... the Income Tax was one of Marx's "baby steps" on the way to a socialist state.

                  All things equal I trust the private sector more then the goverment... the private sector's goal is to make profit- though not always nobel, it is predictable. The goverment position is much harder... often they don't look for profit, but for power... And that is much more dangerous.

                  As for Law Enforcement... the vast majority (but not all) people in law enforcement are corrupt... they only go into the feild because they were picked on or otherwise bullied at some part of their life and procede to take it out on everyone else for the rest of their lives. My experience is most people in the position can't possibly do anything else in life... They have no real skills and usually needed a family member to even get them on the force... Most deserve to be, and would be on the other side of the bars if not for their badge. They tend to be drunks, and they tend to drive drunk. Very few are worthy and even many of them will turn their cheek when their fellow cops are cheating/lying/stealing and otherwise acting like criminals. Most are racists too... from racist homes.

                  As for the military... Not everyone in uniform is a hero... many are general scumbags who like to shoot things, probably tortured animals growing up. Other's made the military choice as a business decision... these people may yet become heros, but they aren't the day they sign up. Generally for the people who choose to serve, the rigid disipline instilled is a good thing- but these are people who would otherwise be flipping burgers if not for the military... very few leave a cozy office job to serve. But not all.

                  So I hope that answers your questions.
                  This wasn't meant to start controvsey, only to answer the question raised in the other thread.

                  EDITED BY SBACON not needed!

                  I'm pretty sure the academy gave me a better education then you will ever have.
                  Last edited by sbacon; 05-24-2006, 10:27 AM.

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                  • #10
                    ha ha, when you're pissing your pants cause the closet monster scared you the first thing you do is dial 911.

                    when the cop arrives to save you, tell him it was the idiot in the mirror that wrote your little spiel, not you. maybe his shadow will kick your shadows arse to.


                    EDIT: FDR did more to destroy and ruin this country than any one person could ever do. he was a socialist at best and communist at worst. he played on peoples fears instead of hopes. he rewrote the constitution as much as he could. when the supreme court stopped him he tried to rig the court in his favor. luckly he failed. JFK was the next big loser, maybe Johnson or Truman depending on how you look at it. while it might be sad that some whore died, at least it kept ted kennedy out of the white house.
                    Last edited by FUBAR; 05-24-2006, 12:25 AM.

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                    • #11
                      BOP you know my background. I did 34 years of law enforcement and I have been tolerant of your outbursts for some time now but you are nothing but a bigotted arsehole with no purpose in life. My father who passed on Christmas day served during WW2 and Korea and after retiring from the service went on a second carrer in civil service. Edited by Sbacon not needed!It's crap like you that wines and complains but are unable to commit anything to helping a situation. You talk the talk but can't even crawl with the walk.
                      Last edited by sbacon; 05-24-2006, 10:28 AM.

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                      • #12
                        Your father sounds like a respectable person, I don't know why you feel what I say applies to him unless you know he had some hand in the destruction of this country.

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                        • #13
                          You are the one who catagorizes everyone. You obviously need a life or maybe you should go out into the real world.....not your Star Wars fantasy knife world....and view real people doing real work to supply your sorry arse with substance. Edited by Sbacon not needed! Moderators please drop this guy before he ruins the board spewing his hatred and bigotry Everyone says to ignore him but it is impossible for anyone with an attitude towards godwill and friendship to see his horses&^% and ignore it.
                          Last edited by sbacon; 05-24-2006, 10:30 AM.

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                          • #14
                            Poppy, you don't need to go getting all worked up over this guy's nonsense... it's what he sits around all day dreaming about and wishing for.
                            Just go do the lil' admin thing like most the rest of us have and he just magically disappears.
                            Life is good!

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                            • #15
                              you know the only reason he is even able to say the crap he is saying is because of guys like big mike, slizzut, myself and many others who have sacrificed a lot being in the military.

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