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    I have written a long and mad letter to a Jeep magazine that will remain nameless. I don't want to sway anyones opinion of it. BUT the one thing that has pi$$ed me off about it is the fact that they condone the installation of GM engines in classic and rare Jeeps. I am a bit of an extremist and I think that they should remain Jeep. Now I know that some of the AMC Jeeps had GM engines from the factory and even some other GM parts, they even had Ford parts on them. AMC = All Motors Corperation, HAHAHAHA . But what I cannot accept is the installation of GM 305's, 350's, and 4.3's. I don't recall the Scramblers ever having MPFI engines, correct me if I am wrong PLEASE. I think that it is a sin to do that to an classic or rare Jeep. Would anyone take a Hurst Jeepster and tear it to shreds just to add a couple of more horses? I think not, so why do it to a rare '86 Scrambler. Post opinions, please, I want to know if I am the only one that feels this way.

  • #2
    I know what you mean
    a buddy of mine has a 74 CJ 5, not exactly "rare" or classic, but it goes along with the arguement. he put a 350 chevy in it, and i just wondered why. hes a jeep enthusiast and i thought it just didnt make any sense. :roll:
    I mean c'mon, if you want a Jeep, wouldnt you want to keep it as original as you could? eh oh well

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    • #3
      I am glad I am not the only one that thinks like this, I thought I was going crazy :x . Well The CJ-5 is kinda classic, not like CJ-2A classic but still. I agree with what you say. There are good Jeep motors out there to dump in a Jeep, 360,318,304, and I am sure there are more. Why pick Chevy?

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      • #4
        I agree!

        I agree with ya'!

        You won't catch me replacing my straight 6 with a v8. I like my 74 CJ-5 as original as possible.

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        • #5
          I feel it depends on what you are doing with it, the only thing on my scrambler that is original is the frame and body.

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          • #6
            Are you just trying to start a discussion or is all that anger for real?Almost nothing on my jeep is jeep except the frame and body. If I wanted a bone stock jeep I sure would not be reading the 4x4 mags that are out there. Different stroke for different folks. Just be sure and enjoy what you've got!

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            • #7
              It is real. I enjoy what I have, I admit the 2.5 in my Wrangler is weak, but I won't put a GM motor in it. It is really about the classics though. You know like an 86 Scrambler. I read a mag with an article about a guy who totaly destroyed one by hacking it to pieces and putting GM this, GM that on it. There were only about 147 Scramblers made in 86, the ones left should be preserved not destroyed. I can handle it to certain degrees in CJ-7's and Wranglers, YJ and TJ, but the classics, that just burns me up.

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              • #8
                well, the gm iron duke didnt have enough pep for me, and was sometimes a pain to drive bc in todays traffic sometimes u need that acceleration, and since it had a gm engine in it already i considered my current project an "upgrade" to a 4.3. I am keeping the engine carbuereted, i never considered the v8 swap, bc i would kill myself in something like that....cruisin out to big shell (padre island) is all my rig is for and my 4.3 will handle that fine.

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                • #9
                  thejeepingoat what kind of Jeep is it? My biggest b%&ch is with the classics being done up like that. I guess I can tolerate some of it. And I can almost agree if it had the Iron Duke in it. At least you kept it carburated. My CJ-5 has an old 134 F-head engine in it and that is all it will ever have. It isn't going for hills or rocks, just the occasional trail here and there. Besides it is for my wife. The Scrambler is going to keep that same old 258 straight six that it came with. It still doesn't answer the burning question, Why GM why not MOPAR? They have some good engines to offer, 318, 360, even the 6 cyl is good. I won't go to the extreme and put a Hemi in my Wrangler(wouldn't that be nice) it would take to much sugery to do it(I have some spare time) and the cost is out of this world(Im sure I could come up with some spare cash). Ok that is enough of this the voices have started again :g :lol:

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                  • #10
                    This is kinda how I see it. People Like the jeep for the main reason of 4wheeling right. well then you get into mods like lifts and wenches and bumpers role cages and what not right. well most of those are performance inhancing to the jeep. So for a guy to put in a 305 or 350 or any GM motor it's just a mod or perfomance upgrade. Thats How I see.

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                    • #11
                      It still doesn't answer the question. Why GM? Mopar or chrysler have good engines that would be easier to mount up. Why go thru the hassle to install a GM engine? That is the root question

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by scrambler013
                        It still doesn't answer the question. Why GM? Mopar or chrysler have good engines that would be easier to mount up. Why go thru the hassle to install a GM engine? That is the root question
                        cheaper. GM parts are cheaper and more universal than some of the other motors that are out there in the market.

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                        • #13
                          jdogg4 Has it. It's all about the money and simplicity.You can build a small blk chevy for almost half that of a ford and even less than that of most of the rest. most all the parts are interchangeable and they produced half again as many small blk chevys as fords. They are everywhere.As far as scamblers are concerned(read any make of early to late 80's vehicles),at least here in california the engines in them are crap because of all the smog stuff. Out here they took a normal engine and put a bunch of crap on it to make the eco-terrorist happy.Thats why in all domestic brand there were major changes to there powerplants in 86&87.Sorry to be so long winded.My point is most of the people I encounter want to use their jeep not have it sit in the weeds,so in goes a different motor

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                          • #14
                            Finally someone with a real answer. Not that cheaper isn't a real answer. It makes sense in CA with all of the smog crap on them. Thank you for the bit of insigt on that one. However that doesn't explain the reasons in the rest of the 50 US states . Oh well I guess I am still quite alone in my quest to find a happy world with perfect Jeeps . HAHAHAHA. At least while I am here I know a little more as to why people put GM engines into their Jeeps. Thanks. (Still bothers me)

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by scrambler013
                              Finally someone with a real answer. Not that cheaper isn't a real answer. It makes sense in CA with all of the smog crap on them. Thank you for the bit of insigt on that one. However that doesn't explain the reasons in the rest of the 50 US states . Oh well I guess I am still quite alone in my quest to find a happy world with perfect Jeeps . HAHAHAHA. At least while I am here I know a little more as to why people put GM engines into their Jeeps. Thanks. (Still bothers me)
                              CA isn't the only place with smog issues. They might have harder or more effective laws for smog control, but there not the only one. All around it's more bang for the buck and performance and accessibility. I would bet anyone that I can come up with and build a GM motor with more power/torqe than any jeep motor at this point for less than a quarter of the cost.

                              Heck right now I have a 350 block in my garage and all it needs is a rebuild kit for it. it was running when it was pulled but it wouldn't hurt to go back thru the thing and spunk it up a bit. The rebuild kit I want is only 350 and the block was only 150 so that 500 bucks I'm doing all the work. maybe not the timing and tunning of the valves cause a valve job is hard to do. then another 250 in odd parts here or there. 750bucks at this point. And I have a 350 that will put out atleast 300 hp.

                              now I've been looking for a I6 HO for a buddies TJ it came with a 4 banger and it's just not doing the job for him with a 3"lift and 31's it does ok but he wants more power. I have yet to find just a stock one for less than 1200 thats stock and what do they put out about 170 to 200 hp I "think"

                              There easy to work with easy to pass smog inspection. LIke I said for the best bang for the buck it's the only way to go. I would love to but a mopar V8 hemmi motor in a jeep but thats going to cost a butt load of cash. Now if I won the lottery heck ya I would do it cause it's not an issue. but as you know if you don't have the lottery backing your bank account JEEP stands for just empty every pocket. the money you save going with chevy can go to the jeep for new jeep toys.

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